were you able to get in touch with someone about Herbalife Shake and products. Please contact me if you did not.

Really? Why don’t you learn to proof read your posts before posting them so that we don’t have to labor through disjointed incomplete sentences. We all appreciate your having picked yourself up off the streets to join society as a contributing member but please. If you really think Herbalife is NOT a scam then why don’t you go up your revenue stream and see how much money is being pulled through you at the top. NOT a scam, please…why don’t YOU get off your train and start breathing the fresh air of reality. Herbalife, they depend on gullable people like you to sustain the flow and that is what is wrong with America!

What you say about lack of formal training is wrong….maybe thats how it works in the US but not over here in NL, I am going through training right now…

But anyway…

You believe Herbalife products are crap, which is also fine.

There is no point discussing this topic further, I wish you all the best with investing your energy and time on a subject/business you are passionate and positive about.

Get off the train and go get a job.

As to the articles being some sort of disguise for the ads, they aren’t. They’re articles.

And as to placing ads on a website being shady or scammy, what nonsense. Millions of reputable websites across the internet serve up advertising. There’s nothing shady about placing ads on a website. If you don’t like seeing advertising, install an adblock plugin in your browser instead of posting ridiculous comments like this.

I’ve already been told what is required. It costs several hundred dollars and you commence selling their crap.

When Herbalife first made its appearance in 1980 I was present for it. I well remember the funky little generic bottles with the hand printed labels. I also remember the individuals that promoted the product. As well, I remember when Herbalife went from being a supplier of processed and packaged herbs and tonics to being a pyramid based marketer of said products.

Now pyramid schemes were deemed illegal buy the US Government because they simply were nothing more than a scheme. No products were involved, just people getting people to pay so as to get other people to pay…and so on, thus the pyramid. When the government stepped in and ruled their activites as illegal, all the would be pyramiders changed there marketing to strategy to include….drum roll…products! The first product to be grabbed up by former pyramiders was Amway which was a small company selling household cleaning products in competition with the likes of Fuller Brush and Avon. Now once the pryamiders got a hold of Amway they took off like no bodies business. And so the transition was complete and pyramiders became “Multilevel Marketers”. The only difference, and yes all of you folks need to do a little research, the ONLY difference between pyramid schemes and multilevel marketing is the inclusion of an actual product that “is for sale” thus side-stepping being classified as a pyramid.

Granted, as I explained at the outset, Herbalife like Amway, did not start out as a multilevel marketer yet that is what they became early on and that is their primary source of revenue today. Now let’s continue with a little more education on this subject. Not too long after figuring out the “product” angle, the Government figured out that these “multilevel marketers” where primarily selling distributorships and not actual product. So the Government then refined its guidelines adding a ratio of sales revenue requirement requiring a significant percentage of the company’s revenue to come from actual sales of products. Not to be deterred, multilevel marketers responded by changing the requirements of there “distributors”. Distributors were now required to purchase specific levels of product to maintain there status. And so, vuala, the pyramiders found a way to continue there schemes while satisfying the governments requirements to be classified as “multilevel marketers”.

So make no mistake about it. Herbalife like Amway and others, are “legal” pryamid schemes cloaked in the categorization established by the government of “multilevel marketers”. To date, Herbalife’s key revenue stream comes from “downstreams” created through the marketing of, not their products, but their distributorships. If you still wish to believe otherwise, may I invite you to attend one of Herbalife’s regional or national meetings and observe who it is that is receiving the awards and who it is that is making the “big bucks”.

At the end of the day, Herbalife does have a product and people do use the products. If you have benefited from their products then God bless. But please be honest in your evaluation of them as a business. The real question is this; is making money off getting people to give you money so that they can go and get people to give them money so that…ethical? You may be surprised by my answer but I say, yes! My answer comes with a condition however and that is that you must be upfront and honest with perspective distributors about where the real revenue stream is. That’s all. Now the problem with that is, well, the government. If you promote the truth about where the money really is coming from you are then going to find yourself in a bit trouble…and so goes fine lines.

Let me conclude by saying this. If Herbalife has quality products that produce real results and that is what the mission of the company is, then eliminate the multilevel money stream and be a straight up manufacturer of herbal products utilizing distributors that sell product and nothing else. It just that simple. Until companies like Herbalife change their marketing model they will continue to skirt the fine line between legal and illegal and continue to receive the criticism that comes with it. – J

I don’t know where you are located Ben but perhaps if you are interested contact Herbalife and ask them what you’d have to do to become a member…just out of interest, if they give you a different story to mine then question them…would be interested to see if this seems to be the standard internationally.